I just don’t understand why anyone would advocate for the for-profit model. I work for an international company and some of my colleagues live in other countries, like Canada and the UK. And while they say it’s not a perfect system (nothing is) they’re so grateful they don’t have for profit healthcare like in the US. They feel bad for us, not envy. When they’re sick, they go to the doctor. When they need surgery, they get surgery. The only exception is they don’t get a huge bill afterwards. And it’s not just these anecdotes. There’s actual stats that show the outcomes of our healthcare system is behind these other countries.
From what I can tell, all the anti universal healthcare messaging is just politically motivated gaslighting by politicians and pundits propped up by the healthcare lobby. They flout isolated horror stories and selectively point out imperfections with a universal healthcare model but don’t ever zoom out to the big picture. For instance, they talk about people having to pay higher taxes in countries with it. But isn’t that better than going bankrupt from medical debt?
I can understand politicians and right leaning media pushing this narrative but do any real people believe we’re better off without universal healthcare or that it’s impossible to implement here in the richest country in the world? I’m not a liberal by any means; I’m an independent. But I just can’t wrap my brain around this.
To me a good analogy of universal healthcare is public education. How many of us send our kids to public school? We’d like to maybe send them to private school and do so if we can. But when we can’t, public schools are an entirely viable option. I understand public education is far from perfect but imagine if it didn’t exist and your kids would only get a basic education if you could afford to pay for a private school? I doubt anyone would advocate for a system like that. But then why do we have it for something equally important, like healthcare?
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r/NoStupidQuestions I just don’t understand why anyone would advocate for the for-profit model. I work for an international company and some of my colleagues live in other countries, like Canada and the UK. And while they say it’s not a perfect system (nothing is) they’re so grateful they don’t have for profit healthcare like in the US. They feel bad for us, not envy. When they’re sick, they go to the doctor. When they need surgery, they get surgery. The only exception is they don’t get a huge bill afterwards. And it’s not just these anecdotes. There’s actual stats that show the outcomes of our healthcare system is behind these other countries. From what I can tell, all the anti universal healthcare messaging is just politically motivated gaslighting by politicians and pundits propped up by the healthcare lobby. They flout isolated horror stories and selectively point out imperfections with a universal healthcare model but don’t ever zoom out to the big picture. For instance, they talk about people having to pay higher taxes in countries with it. But isn’t that better than going bankrupt from medical debt? I can understand politicians and right leaning media pushing this narrative but do any real people believe we’re better off without universal healthcare or that it’s impossible to implement here in the richest country in the world? I’m not a liberal by any means; I’m an independent. But I just can’t wrap my brain around this. To me a good analogy of universal healthcare is public education. How many of us send our kids to public school? We’d like to maybe send them to private school and do so if we can. But when we can’t, public schools are an entirely viable option. I understand public education is far from perfect but imagine if it didn’t exist and your kids would only get a basic education if you could afford to pay for a private school? I doubt anyone would advocate for a system like that. But then why do we have it for something equally important, like healthcare? submitted by /u/Zenterrestrial [link] [comments]
I just don’t understand why anyone would advocate for the for-profit model. I work for an international company and some of my colleagues live in other countries, like Canada and the UK. And while they say it’s not a perfect system (nothing is) they’re so grateful they don’t have for profit healthcare like in the US. They feel bad for us, not envy. When they’re sick, they go to the doctor. When they need surgery, they get surgery. The only exception is they don’t get a huge bill afterwards. And it’s not just these anecdotes. There’s actual stats that show the outcomes of our healthcare system is behind these other countries.
From what I can tell, all the anti universal healthcare messaging is just politically motivated gaslighting by politicians and pundits propped up by the healthcare lobby. They flout isolated horror stories and selectively point out imperfections with a universal healthcare model but don’t ever zoom out to the big picture. For instance, they talk about people having to pay higher taxes in countries with it. But isn’t that better than going bankrupt from medical debt?
I can understand politicians and right leaning media pushing this narrative but do any real people believe we’re better off without universal healthcare or that it’s impossible to implement here in the richest country in the world? I’m not a liberal by any means; I’m an independent. But I just can’t wrap my brain around this.
To me a good analogy of universal healthcare is public education. How many of us send our kids to public school? We’d like to maybe send them to private school and do so if we can. But when we can’t, public schools are an entirely viable option. I understand public education is far from perfect but imagine if it didn’t exist and your kids would only get a basic education if you could afford to pay for a private school? I doubt anyone would advocate for a system like that. But then why do we have it for something equally important, like healthcare?
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