Indians… /u/userisauser CSCQ protests reddit

What can I say that hasn’t already been said?

Everytime someone has a negative experience working with indians and someone points out that there is a problem with indian culture, particularly in enterprise engineering environments, people scream racism.

Let me be clear, it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of their skin.

It has everything to do with indian culture and how indian culture plays out in an enterprise engineering environment.

I was recently on a six month contract with a local utility company. The utility company serves a region that is 80% white. However, the engineering department was 99% indian.

I wonder to myself, “how do these numbers happen?”

Well, my contract was not extended, I suppose that’s one way.

Why was it not extended? Let’s speculate: – I was told the job was remote but on the first day, I was told anyone local to the area must be onsite. I said I am not within driving distance, they said, “ok, that’s totally fine, you can be remote.” I believe this was already my final strike and I had just started.

• throughout the contract, durring our early morning calls to collaborate with offshore resources, the disrespectful tone was very stressful. Constantly being interrupted, attacked, allegations of not working/introducing bugs, and basically anything they could find that would be viewed negatively was thrown at me. It was a day to day struggle just to keep my job for the full six months of the contract.

• to my credit, I defended myself well and my defenses actually resulted in some great process changes for the department. However, me defending myself with the same tone they gave me is a “big no no.”

Indian culture has a weird “master/slave” relationship between managers and subordinates. It’s like how I would imagine being “called onto the carpet” before a king, publicly scrutinize in front of my peers, and forced to prostrate be my majesty. Of course, after witnessing this, your peers begin to take shots at you as well.

But I digress. The main issue I had was with the vebal nature of every aspect of the development lifecycle. They would give verbal orders for major changes without writing it down or documenting properly if at all. Then on subsequent calls, they would make contradicting requests which conflicted with their previous requests.

When you call them out on this contradiction, they lie and twist their words to make you seem crazy or like you weren’t paying attention.

They would create stories in Jira with little to no acceptance criteria. I was later told by an American coworker that this is because they do not know how to write in english that well. I’m not sure how true that is. I believe the true reason is more nefarious and has to do with a desire shirk accountability.

In the end, I was not called by my indian staffing agency, notifying me that the contract would not be extended. Nor did the indian manager notify me either. I simply tried to log in on the 1st and learned my account had expired.

This experience is consistent across many contracts over a decade and a half of working in this field. It’s been getting worse and worse as the density of indian resources continues to increase.

I had an alarming 7 month gap in employment last year, and to learn that my local utility company, who uses the exact tech stack I specialize in, employs 99% indian resources while I and people like me are looking for work, is so obviously wrong that I’m considering a lawsuit.

What can I say that hasn’t already been said?

Everytime someone has a negative experience working with indians and someone points out that there is a problem with indian culture, particularly in enterprise engineering environments, people scream racism.

Let me be clear, it has absolutely nothing to do with the color of their skin.

It has everything to do with indian culture and how indian culture plays out in an enterprise engineering environment.

I was recently on a six month contract with a local utility company. The utility company serves a region that is 80% white. However, the engineering department was 99% indian.

I wonder to myself, “how do these numbers happen?”

Well, my contract was not extended, I suppose that’s one way.

Why was it not extended? Let’s speculate: – I was told the job was remote but on the first day, I was told anyone local to the area must be onsite. I said I am not within driving distance, they said, “ok, that’s totally fine, you can be remote.” I believe this was already my final strike and I had just started.

• throughout the contract, durring our early morning calls to collaborate with offshore resources, the disrespectful tone was very stressful. Constantly being interrupted, attacked, allegations of not working/introducing bugs, and basically anything they could find that would be viewed negatively was thrown at me. It was a day to day struggle just to keep my job for the full six months of the contract.

• to my credit, I defended myself well and my defenses actually resulted in some great process changes for the department. However, me defending myself with the same tone they gave me is a “big no no.”

Indian culture has a weird “master/slave” relationship between managers and subordinates. It’s like how I would imagine being “called onto the carpet” before a king, publicly scrutinize in front of my peers, and forced to prostrate be my majesty. Of course, after witnessing this, your peers begin to take shots at you as well.

But I digress. The main issue I had was with the vebal nature of every aspect of the development lifecycle. They would give verbal orders for major changes without writing it down or documenting properly if at all. Then on subsequent calls, they would make contradicting requests which conflicted with their previous requests.

When you call them out on this contradiction, they lie and twist their words to make you seem crazy or like you weren’t paying attention.

They would create stories in Jira with little to no acceptance criteria. I was later told by an American coworker that this is because they do not know how to write in english that well. I’m not sure how true that is. I believe the true reason is more nefarious and has to do with a desire shirk accountability.

In the end, I was not called by my indian staffing agency, notifying me that the contract would not be extended. Nor did the indian manager notify me either. I simply tried to log in on the 1st and learned my account had expired.

This experience is consistent across many contracts over a decade and a half of working in this field. It’s been getting worse and worse as the density of indian resources continues to increase.

I had an alarming 7 month gap in employment last year, and to learn that my local utility company, who uses the exact tech stack I specialize in, employs 99% indian resources while I and people like me are looking for work, is so obviously wrong that I’m considering a lawsuit.