I’ve seen a lot of discussion that is missing facts so I figured I’d put some out there for people to look at.
If I’m wrong, I will correct things and add interpretations people suggest (as my time permits). Right now i really have some other year end deadlines but this discussion is too important right to ignore. Feel free to copy this and make your own posts to improve it.
H1b has an annual cap of 85k. In practice this is much more because there are uncapped exempt organizations like non profits and gov agencies and universities.
In 2024 there were ~114000 new h1b beneficiaries for example. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/h1b-visa-program-fact-sheet
The growing trend of state a local govts hiring using these programs is particularly disturbing given many “mediocre” college students who cant “leet” arent even getting basic crud jobs.
Additionally, h1b spouses on greencard pending status can also work. You’d have to do a public records request to find the exact number since they dont publish it in annual reports but Id guess that adds another 20 to 30k to the h1b “cap”
And just a reminder that’s just new beneficiaries. There are also renewals so the total population was 755,020 in 2023.
Then there is OPT. Many h1bs actually start on OPT. There were about 350k in 2023 with about 100k being STEM related
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12631
OPT does not require payroll taxes or prevailing wages to be paid by the employer. By default, opt employees are 15% cheaper than us citizens if compensation is offered at all (there is no requirement to compensate the worker)
When students complain about h1b, it is actually opt students they are initially competing against for internships.
65 Percent of h1bs are computer related. Id say this is is a rough proxy for the other programs like OPT and EB
Then there are 140000 EB greencard roles which are usually existing h1b positions converted into senior roles. Heavily computer related there too and they discriminate HARD against americans there.
Finally there is the CPT day one practical training for F1 students as well as L visas. I have more to research on these programs but people should have them on their radar for discussion.
60% h1bs were found to be certified in the govts lowest wage levels in a study by epi analyzing publicly available data
https://www.epi.org/publication/h-1b-visas-and-prevailing-wage-levels/
Yes, yes I know rsus and bonuses. The study focuses on entry level and I believe it still applies.
Numbers for new tech jobs annually are between 100 to 300k depending on where you look. There are around 100k new us grads in computer science related fields created every year.
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r/cscareerquestions I’ve seen a lot of discussion that is missing facts so I figured I’d put some out there for people to look at. If I’m wrong, I will correct things and add interpretations people suggest (as my time permits). Right now i really have some other year end deadlines but this discussion is too important right to ignore. Feel free to copy this and make your own posts to improve it. H1b has an annual cap of 85k. In practice this is much more because there are uncapped exempt organizations like non profits and gov agencies and universities. In 2024 there were ~114000 new h1b beneficiaries for example. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/h1b-visa-program-fact-sheet The growing trend of state a local govts hiring using these programs is particularly disturbing given many “mediocre” college students who cant “leet” arent even getting basic crud jobs. Additionally, h1b spouses on greencard pending status can also work. You’d have to do a public records request to find the exact number since they dont publish it in annual reports but Id guess that adds another 20 to 30k to the h1b “cap” And just a reminder that’s just new beneficiaries. There are also renewals so the total population was 755,020 in 2023. Then there is OPT. Many h1bs actually start on OPT. There were about 350k in 2023 with about 100k being STEM related https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12631 OPT does not require payroll taxes or prevailing wages to be paid by the employer. By default, opt employees are 15% cheaper than us citizens if compensation is offered at all (there is no requirement to compensate the worker) When students complain about h1b, it is actually opt students they are initially competing against for internships. 65 Percent of h1bs are computer related. Id say this is is a rough proxy for the other programs like OPT and EB https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/reports/OLA_Signed_H-1B_Characteristics_Congressional_Report_FY2023.pdf Then there are 140000 EB greencard roles which are usually existing h1b positions converted into senior roles. Heavily computer related there too and they discriminate HARD against americans there. Finally there is the CPT day one practical training for F1 students as well as L visas. I have more to research on these programs but people should have them on their radar for discussion. 60% h1bs were found to be certified in the govts lowest wage levels in a study by epi analyzing publicly available data https://www.epi.org/publication/h-1b-visas-and-prevailing-wage-levels/ Yes, yes I know rsus and bonuses. The study focuses on entry level and I believe it still applies. Numbers for new tech jobs annually are between 100 to 300k depending on where you look. There are around 100k new us grads in computer science related fields created every year. https://archive.md/voKte submitted by /u/mand0dia0 [link] [comments]
I’ve seen a lot of discussion that is missing facts so I figured I’d put some out there for people to look at.
If I’m wrong, I will correct things and add interpretations people suggest (as my time permits). Right now i really have some other year end deadlines but this discussion is too important right to ignore. Feel free to copy this and make your own posts to improve it.
H1b has an annual cap of 85k. In practice this is much more because there are uncapped exempt organizations like non profits and gov agencies and universities.
In 2024 there were ~114000 new h1b beneficiaries for example. https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/h1b-visa-program-fact-sheet
The growing trend of state a local govts hiring using these programs is particularly disturbing given many “mediocre” college students who cant “leet” arent even getting basic crud jobs.
Additionally, h1b spouses on greencard pending status can also work. You’d have to do a public records request to find the exact number since they dont publish it in annual reports but Id guess that adds another 20 to 30k to the h1b “cap”
And just a reminder that’s just new beneficiaries. There are also renewals so the total population was 755,020 in 2023.
Then there is OPT. Many h1bs actually start on OPT. There were about 350k in 2023 with about 100k being STEM related
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12631
OPT does not require payroll taxes or prevailing wages to be paid by the employer. By default, opt employees are 15% cheaper than us citizens if compensation is offered at all (there is no requirement to compensate the worker)
When students complain about h1b, it is actually opt students they are initially competing against for internships.
65 Percent of h1bs are computer related. Id say this is is a rough proxy for the other programs like OPT and EB
Then there are 140000 EB greencard roles which are usually existing h1b positions converted into senior roles. Heavily computer related there too and they discriminate HARD against americans there.
Finally there is the CPT day one practical training for F1 students as well as L visas. I have more to research on these programs but people should have them on their radar for discussion.
60% h1bs were found to be certified in the govts lowest wage levels in a study by epi analyzing publicly available data
https://www.epi.org/publication/h-1b-visas-and-prevailing-wage-levels/
Yes, yes I know rsus and bonuses. The study focuses on entry level and I believe it still applies.
Numbers for new tech jobs annually are between 100 to 300k depending on where you look. There are around 100k new us grads in computer science related fields created every year.
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